It's 2024 And I Can't Even Come Up With a Title for How Batshit Crazy It Is to Push an SSRI to Combat Covid That Even the CDC Just Downgraded to a Cold.
Stay on it Steve.
Contributors
Angela M. Reiersen supervision, conception, investigation, data curation, critical review and editing of the manuscript.
Declaration of interests
Dr. Reiersen is listed as an inventor on a patent application related to methods of treating COVID-19 (including Sigma1 agonists and specifically fluvoxamine), which was filed by Washington University in St. Louis. No other author declares any potential conflict of interest or competing financial or non-financial interest in relation to the manuscript.
100%. Huh. Sounds solid. And rational. To take an SSRI (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor) for a temporary “respiratory infection”.
Based on a study showing 100% efficacy. Where one of the contributors (that supervised, conceived, investigated, curated data, critically reviewed, and edited the manuscript) is listed as an inventor of the thing that the study was specifically studying.
Welp…that’s a wrap. I kind of feel like that could be it for this post.
But just for shits and giggles let’s take a look at a few things.
First, a little review of SSRI caution from the Mayo Clinic:
Possible side effects and caution:
Possible side effects of SSRIs may include, among others:
Nausea, vomiting or diarrhea
Headache
Drowsiness
Dry mouth
Insomnia
Nervousness, agitation or restlessness
Dizziness
Sexual problems, such as reduced sexual desire, difficulty reaching orgasm or inability to maintain an erection (erectile dysfunction)
Impact on appetite, leading to weight loss or weight gain
Safety issues
SSRIs are generally safe for most people. However, in some circumstances they can cause problems. For example, high doses of citalopram may cause dangerous abnormal heart rhythms, so doses over 40 milligrams (mg) a day should be avoided according to the FDA and the manufacturer. They also recommend a maximum daily dose of 20 mg of citalopram for people over age 60.
Issues to discuss with your doctor before you take an SSRI include:
Drug interactions. When taking an antidepressant, tell your doctor about any other prescription or over-the-counter medications, herbs or other supplements you're taking. Some antidepressants can interfere with the effectiveness of other medications, and some can cause dangerous reactions when combined with certain medications or herbal supplements.
For example, SSRIs may increase your risk of bleeding, especially when you're taking other medications that increase the risk of bleeding, such as nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), aspirin, warfarin (Coumadin, Jantoven) and other blood thinners.
Serotonin syndrome. Rarely, an antidepressant can cause high levels of serotonin to accumulate in your body. Serotonin syndrome most often occurs when two medications that raise the level of serotonin are combined. These include, for example, other antidepressants, certain pain or headache medications, and the herbal supplement St. John's wort.
Signs and symptoms of serotonin syndrome include anxiety, agitation, high fever, sweating, confusion, tremors, restlessness, lack of coordination, major changes in blood pressure and a rapid heart rate. Seek immediate medical attention if you have any of these signs or symptoms.
Antidepressants and pregnancy. Talk to your doctor about the risks and benefits of using specific antidepressants. Some antidepressants may harm your baby if you take them during pregnancy or while you're breast-feeding. If you're taking an antidepressant and you're considering getting pregnant, talk to your doctor about the possible risks. Don't stop taking your medication without contacting your doctor first, as stopping might pose risks for you.
Suicide risk and antidepressants
Most antidepressants are generally safe, but the FDA requires that all antidepressants carry black box warnings, the strictest warnings for prescriptions. In some cases, children, teenagers and young adults under 25 may have an increase in suicidal thoughts or behavior when taking antidepressants, especially in the first few weeks after starting or when the dose is changed.
Anyone taking an antidepressant should be watched closely for worsening depression or unusual behavior. If you or someone you know has suicidal thoughts when taking an antidepressant, immediately contact your doctor or get emergency help.
Keep in mind that antidepressants are more likely to reduce suicide risk in the long run by improving mood.
Stopping treatment with SSRIs
SSRIs aren't addictive. However, stopping antidepressant treatment abruptly or missing several doses can cause withdrawal-like symptoms. This is sometimes called discontinuation syndrome. Work with your doctor to gradually and safely decrease your dose.
Withdrawal-like symptoms can include:
General feeling of uneasiness
Nausea
Dizziness
Lethargy
Flu-like symptoms
Cool. Now that we saw how fucking sketchy and dangerous generally safe and easy SSRIs are, let’s look at Fluvoxamine specifically. I wonder if Fluvoxamine can easily be taken with other medications…since, you know, most people are on the Pharmaceutical Smörgåsbord Program these days…(also from Mayo)
Drug Interactions
Although certain medicines should not be used together at all, in other cases two different medicines may be used together even if an interaction might occur. In these cases, your doctor may want to change the dose, or other precautions may be necessary. When you are taking this medicine, it is especially important that your healthcare professional know if you are taking any of the medicines listed below. The following interactions have been selected on the basis of their potential significance and are not necessarily all-inclusive.
Using this medicine with any of the following medicines is not recommended. Your doctor may decide not to treat you with this medication or change some of the other medicines you take.
Agomelatine
Alosetron
Astemizole
Bromopride
Cisapride
Eliglustat
Fezolinetant
Isocarboxazid
Levomethadyl
Linezolid
Mavacamten
Methylene Blue
Metoclopramide
Ozanimod
Phenelzine
Pimozide
Procarbazine
Ramelteon
Rasagiline
Safinamide
Selegiline
Terfenadine
Thioridazine
Tizanidine
Tranylcypromine
Using this medicine with any of the following medicines is usually not recommended, but may be required in some cases. If both medicines are prescribed together, your doctor may change the dose or how often you use one or both of the medicines.
Abciximab
Abrocitinib
Acalabrutinib
Aceclofenac
Acemetacin
Acenocoumarol
Alfentanil
Almotriptan
Alprazolam
Amineptine
Amiodarone
Amitriptyline
Amitriptylinoxide
Amoxapine
Amphetamine
Amtolmetin Guacil
Anagrelide
Anileridine
Apixaban
Aprepitant
Ardeparin
Argatroban
Asenapine
Aspirin
Atazanavir
Avapritinib
Belzutifan
Bemiparin
Bendamustine
Benzhydrocodone
Benzphetamine
Betrixaban
Bivalirudin
Bosutinib
Brigatinib
Bromfenac
Brompheniramine
Bufexamac
Buprenorphine
Bupropion
Buspirone
Butorphanol
Cangrelor
Capivasertib
Carbamazepine
Carvedilol
Celecoxib
Certoparin
Chlorpheniramine
Choline Salicylate
Cilostazol
Citalopram
Clomipramine
Clonixin
Clopidogrel
Clorgyline
Clozapine
Cobicistat
Cocaine
Codeine
Colchicine
Cyclobenzaprine
Dabigatran Etexilate
Dalteparin
Danaparoid
Daridorexant
Darunavir
Deflazacort
Desipramine
Desirudin
Desmopressin
Desvenlafaxine
Dexfenfluramine
Dexibuprofen
Dexketoprofen
Dextroamphetamine
Dextromethorphan
Diazepam
Dibenzepin
Diclofenac
Difenoxin
Diflunisal
Dihydrocodeine
Dihydroergotamine
Diphenoxylate
Dipyridamole
Dipyrone
Dolasetron
Domperidone
Donepezil
Doxepin
Doxorubicin
Doxorubicin Hydrochloride Liposome
Droperidol
Droxicam
Duloxetine
Edoxaban
Elacestrant
Eletriptan
Elexacaftor
Encorafenib
Enoxaparin
Entrectinib
Epoprostenol
Eptifibatide
Ergoloid Mesylates
Ergonovine
Ergotamine
Escitalopram
Ethylmorphine
Etodolac
Etofenamate
Etoricoxib
Everolimus
Fedratinib
Felbinac
Fenfluramine
Fenoprofen
Fentanyl
Fepradinol
Feprazone
Fexinidazole
Finerenone
Floctafenine
Flufenamic Acid
Fluoxetine
Flurbiprofen
Fondaparinux
Fosaprepitant
Frovatriptan
Gepirone
Granisetron
Heparin
Hydrocodone
Hydromorphone
Hydroxytryptophan
Ibrutinib
Ibuprofen
Iloprost
Imipramine
Indomethacin
Infigratinib
Iobenguane I 123
Iobenguane I 131
Ivacaftor
Ivosidenib
Ketobemidone
Ketoprofen
Ketorolac
Lasmiditan
Lemborexant
Lepirudin
Levomilnacipran
Levorphanol
Lisdexamfetamine
Lithium
Lofepramine
Lorcaserin
Lornoxicam
Loxoprofen
Lumateperone
Lumiracoxib
Lurbinectedin
Meclofenamate
Mefenamic Acid
Melatonin
Melitracen
Meloxicam
Meperidine
Metaxalone
Methadone
Methamphetamine
Methylergonovine
Methylphenidate
Milnacipran
Mirtazapine
Mitapivat
Morniflumate
Morphine
Morphine Sulfate Liposome
Nabumetone
Nadroparin
Nalbuphine
Naproxen
Naratriptan
Nefazodone
Nepafenac
Nialamide
Nicomorphine
Niflumic Acid
Nimesulide
Nimesulide Beta Cyclodextrin
Nirogacestat
Nortriptyline
Olanzapine
Olaparib
Omaveloxolone
Ondansetron
Opipramol
Opium
Opium Alkaloids
Ospemifene
Oxaprozin
Oxycodone
Oxymorphone
Oxyphenbutazone
Pacritinib
Palonosetron
Palovarotene
Papaveretum
Parecoxib
Paregoric
Parnaparin
Paroxetine
Pemigatinib
Pentazocine
Pexidartinib
Phenindione
Phenobarbital
Phenprocoumon
Phenylbutazone
Piketoprofen
Piperaquine
Pirfenidone
Piritramide
Piroxicam
Pixantrone
Pomalidomide
Pralsetinib
Pranoprofen
Prasugrel
Primidone
Proglumetacin
Propyphenazone
Proquazone
Protein C
Protriptyline
Remifentanil
Repotrectinib
Reviparin
Rimegepant
Rivaroxaban
Rizatriptan
Rofecoxib
Roflumilast
Salicylic Acid
Salsalate
Selexipag
Selumetinib
Sertraline
Sibutramine
Sirolimus Protein-Bound
Sodium Salicylate
Sonidegib
Sparsentan
St John's Wort
Sufentanil
Sulfinpyrazone
Sulindac
Sulodexide
Sumatriptan
Tacrolimus
Tamoxifen
Tapentadol
Tasimelteon
Tazemetostat
Tenoxicam
Tezacaftor
Theophylline
Tianeptine
Tiaprofenic Acid
Ticagrelor
Ticlopidine
Tilidine
Tinzaparin
Tirofiban
Tolfenamic Acid
Tolmetin
Toloxatone
Tolvaptan
Tramadol
Trazodone
Treprostinil
Triclabendazole
Trimipramine
Tryptophan
Ubrogepant
Valdecoxib
Venetoclax
Venlafaxine
Vilazodone
Voclosporin
Vorapaxar
Vortioxetine
Warfarin
Zanubrutinib
Ziprasidone
Zolmitriptan
Zolpidem
Using this medicine with any of the following medicines may cause an increased risk of certain side effects, but using both drugs may be the best treatment for you. If both medicines are prescribed together, your doctor may change the dose or how often you use one or both of the medicines.
Amlodipine
Cyclosporine
Fosphenytoin
Galantamine
Ginkgo
Haloperidol
Mexiletine
Midazolam
Phenytoin
Propranolol
Ropivacaine
Suvorexant
Tacrine
Triazolam
Other Interactions
Certain medicines should not be used at or around the time of eating food or eating certain types of food since interactions may occur. Using alcohol or tobacco with certain medicines may also cause interactions to occur. The following interactions have been selected on the basis of their potential significance and are not necessarily all-inclusive.
Using this medicine with any of the following is usually not recommended, but may be unavoidable in some cases. If used together, your doctor may change the dose or how often you use this medicine, or give you special instructions about the use of food, alcohol, or tobacco.
Ethanol
Tobacco
Other Medical Problems
The presence of other medical problems may affect the use of this medicine. Make sure you tell your doctor if you have any other medical problems, especially:
Bipolar disorder (mental disease with mania and depression), history of or
Bleeding problems or
Depression, or history of or
Glaucoma, angle-closure or
Heart attack, recent or
Heart disease or
Heart rhythm problems (eg, arrhythmia, QT prolongation) or
Hyponatremia (low sodium in the blood) or
Mania (feeling elated), history of or
Mental health problems, or history of or
Seizures, or history of—Use with caution. May make these conditions worse.
Liver disease—Use with caution. The effects may be increased because of slower removal of the medicine from the body.
Awesome. Just a couple drug interactions that might be problematic, including aspirin and ibuprofen.
Sounds like a no-brainer. Take it for prevention of Covid hospitalization.
Oh by the way, the CDC recently updated their guidelines for covid to Treat It Like a Fucking Cold:
When people get sick with a respiratory virus, the updated guidance recommends that they stay home and away from others. For people with COVID-19 and influenza, treatment is available and can lessen symptoms and lower the risk of severe illness. The recommendations suggest returning to normal activities when, for at least 24 hours, symptoms are improving overall, and if a fever was present, it has been gone without use of a fever-reducing medication.
Why are we pushing an SSRI for the treatment of a cold that was used to fake a pandemic that never was???
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okay. that list was truly awesome.
my ex had/is taking a couple on it. and the common treatment for gout, indomethacin, was on that list. i wonder how many doctors would even look at that list after the all clear 'safe and effective' headline?
that was interesting. and although your query was likely rhetorical, why are vaccines being pushed for everything in life when for most of the items that we are being protected from the chances of being killed by a toilets seat falling from the space station are higher. of course, the disruptive nature of emf to the electro-chemical processes in the body aren't talked about. hmmmm. and that the mass shooters, when not staged by the government, are walking antidepressant advertisers. hmmmm.
Well said, Sarah. Thanks for the input.
Well, ever since I decided to be my own doctor well before scamvid19, I've never been sick. Part of it is luck and the other part is based on sound nutrition, supplements, exercise and sun. Simple and most effective.
Covid shots were an IQ test so many failed. Avoid pharmaceuticals at all costs.